With a slightly tongueincheek writing style, i demystify the paper patching enigma with a simple, stepbystep approach to reloading using offtheself components for shooting todays. The book is intended for shooters experienced in reloading black powder cartridge rifles that are ready to try their hand at shooting paper patched bullets. If there was one rifle and cartridge that provokes more heated discussion when it comes to cast bullet shooting it is the 6. Select thumbnail image for larger view and details. The guy was right, you can size those paper patched bullets down. Paper patched bullets were merely the forerunners of modern jacketed bullets. Bullet diameter for 4570 paper patched cartridge shiloh. The article was about paper patched boolits for revolverrifle combos in.
Working with lubricated bullets is messy in my experience. Or, print your order after entering your address, attach. Ive shot chase patches in my muzzle loaders and my 4050 ballard. Thing to consider also, is that the bullets in similar weight between 9mm and. Paper patching the hunting bullet for a muzzleloader. However, in the movie, they mention the fact that the bullett match was metallurgical, not ballistic, using the signature straitions of a barrell. The golden age of the american schuetzenfest a history and study of the marksmans art. The cba is a international organization of shooters who enjoy casting and shooting lead alloy bullets for competition, hunting, experimenting, and casual shooting. Paper patching muzzle loader bullets alaska outdoors forums. The bullets you have made can now be paper patched, or placed on the rollers of the corbin hct2 knurling tool, or the hct3 grooving tool. Never tried breech seating chase patches in the ballard because the throat is not tapered. Paper patched bullets were used civilians and armed forces all over the world. The first experimental needle gun was designed by jean samuel pauly, a swiss gunsmith in paris in 1808, in association with french gunsmith francois prelat, pauly created the first fully selfcontained cartridges. An apparently unpublished and previously unknown poem by carl.
Please post what you find,it sounds interesting and would like to know how fast you can push them and of corse accuracy being the main consern also. Diy paper revolver that shoots on 6 bullets in this video i show you how to make amazing revolver that shoots on 6 bullets. It is a tc renegade with a stainless steel green mountain barrel with a 128 twist. Will this work with a hard jacket bullet or must i cast my own with. This for you old or ancient guys paper patched bullets.
If it slips in with a slight resistance, its the right size. Along that line, consider how nicely a heavy 45caliber singlediameter revolver. Original percussion long range rifle with paper patched bullets. Chase patches have been more accurate than wrapped paper patched bullets for me. Here are the benefits of shooting paperpatched bullets in your inline. Patched bullet have a lower friction and thus a reduced pressure, allowing a little more powder before reaching maximum pressure.
A paper cartridge is one of various types of small arms ammunition used before the advent of. This is a full box of what is now scarce ammunition. Thats been a long road to arrive to paper patching bullets for future yard target shooting with a muzzle loading rifle. Ww2 canadian uniform jacket with canvass patches 1945 dated. The paper patch bullet is a lot more like regular lead soft the bullet maker stated it will flatten out like a half dollar when it starts to travel into the animal etc. Oct 22, 2008 after having an interest for a long time, i finally decided to make a very small investment and experiment with paper patched bullets. I just ordered a of those postell bullets from a company out west. What i always heard from the benchrest shooters here we had a huge benchers scene, now totally gone was kroil worked well on just about all fouling, but it took a lot longer to shoot out than normal bore cleaners.
Uses pedersoli bullet mold handles item number usa316. Cant imagine doing it with a jacketed bullet, but then again, i havent tried it. This partial 29 rounds box contains round nose bullets in brass cases with no headstamps. Much discussion and cussin have been laid at their doorstep.
Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load data. Whitworth hexagonal paper patch cast bullet mold for the pedersoli whitworth. Carl riemer, whos best known for his call of duty trickshots, was. Patching with teflon tape was reading an article about paper patched bullets when i stumbled on an article about useing teflon tape instead. I made up some wrapped in tracing paper, and some with adhesive labels. Paperpatching your inline muzzleloader western powders. Thats a very fast twist rate and has proven a very difficult twist rate for cast bullet shooting above 1,500 fps. Why did they paper patch bullets in the movie shooter. Matted prints book gallery about the artist order information home. Jun 12, 2009 world record attempt open sight shot 2240 yards ernest jimenez unmodified k31 swiss 7. Look for your answers in our forum and in our bimonthly publication the fouling shot. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. We rely on a quality products, delivery and value for our customers.
Black powder, modern, and obsolete ammunition buffalo arms. These cartridges were made with the manley paper cartridge former. I wanted to share my success with paper patched muzzleloader bullets for deer. These are double wrap smooth sided paper patch bullets of either pure lead or 16 1 lead tin alloy. Nei lee rcbs saeco and lyman ideal, are companies im familiar with to whatever degree. Original loads for 1860 and 1858 revolvers particularly id like to know about conical bullet loads bullet weight and charge weight. Please post what you find,it sounds interesting and would like to know how fast you can push them and of corse accuracy being.
The first try was prompted by another posting here regarding steyr 8x56r carbines which turned out to have a groove diameter. All you need is paper,cardboard, rubber bands and glue. Paper patch bullets were once the most popular type of bullets in the 1800s. Ive been using maxiballs lately, but i want to try paper patching hornady xtp. Muzzleloading bullets paper patch bullets swaged bullets. Jelly deals metabomb nintendo life push square rock, paper.
When you have a clean rag and time to wipe your hands between shots they work fine. Youre doing well in your gun studies to know about paper patched bullets, but you should rethink what you just wrote and study your measurements more if you are thinking of paper patching. The poem, typed on a manual typewriter on onionskin paper, was. In the early days, the bullet round ball mold quite often fit the bore of the rifle rather poorly. Loading paper patched bullets paper patched bullets ppb are probably the most controversial of all lead bullet styles. World record attempt open sight shot 2240 yards ernest jimenez unmodified k31 swiss 7. Ppbs work equally well with black or smokeless powder. After having an interest for a long time, i finally decided to make a very small investment and experiment with paper patched bullets. Oct 14, 2016 paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. I prefer to use paper patched bullets simply because they are easier to handle. Out of print loading and shooting traditional scheutzen rifles a beginners guide. Enter your name, address, and billing information for prompt shipment. Paper patched or lubricated lead bullets can be swaged in two basic styles, the swc shoulder style shown here, and the smooth ogive style shown below. So, i thought i would give a quick explanation on the concept and then show my process.
Paper patches can be used to make slightly undersized bullets fit a gun with. Its possible to push a patched bullet faster than a jacketed bullet given the same weight and cartridge. Diy paper revolver that shoots on 6 bullets youtube. Some cartridges, such as those for percussion revolvers, used nitrated paper. I started to paper patch for my 45 cal tc renegade. Sep 26, 2009 in shooter, the question was actually, how could a round fired from 1 weapon match a bullet from another, and paper patching was a process that could accomplish this. The remington frame appears to have been specifically designed to accommodate conical bullets, and it is my understandiong that there were factory paper cartridges that used conicals. Paper patched bullets ppb are probably the most controversial of all lead bullet styles. Paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. Nov 19, 2014 along that line, consider how nicely a heavy 45caliber singlediameter revolver cb could function as a ppcb core for a 45caliber rifle.
Grease groove bullets have been the most accurate type so far. North american muzzleloader hunting shares a couple of ways to patch lead bullets and the papers that works best. Box contains six mixed rounds, 3 brass cases, 3 copper cases. Casting, patching and loading their paper patch bullets in the hunting field. On half the bullets, i installed a gas check, while the other half did without.
Here it changes the lubed bullet base was inserted into the barrel lubed paper and all effectively a paper patched bullet to the depth of the lube and flat side of the bullet. It has been my experience, however, that most of the cussin has been from folks with little or no personal experience with ppbs. Here are the benefits of shooting paper patched bullets in your inline. I was doing great with that gun so i decided to try my luck with my 50 cal. Now, i would like to try paper patched bullets in my 7tcu but the gun has some problems with the lockup mechanism ill need to fix before i mess with it again. Test loads note the waterproofed patches on bullets at left. The paper acts like a jacket and keeps the lead from smearing in the bore. Call of duty streamer accidentally fires gun onair, lands twitch ban. And i use a tapered bullet that i find not as accurate as the straight wall bullet that measures patched. Top long range muzzleloading targt shooters of the mid 1800s commonly relied on paperpatched conical bullets. Digital foundryhow the new doom patch dramatically improves previously flawed ports.
Paper patching actually wears a bore less than jacketed bullets. Paper patched bullets the curio and relic firearms forum. Aug 08, 2018 diy paper revolver that shoots on 6 bullets in this video i show you how to make amazing revolver that shoots on 6 bullets. Sport, sporting goods and toys industry lubricants lubrication and lubricants software patches. How in the world would one go about preparing such ammunition today. However, when the jarmann rifle was adopted in the early 1880s a paper patched bullet was introduced. Demystify the paper patch enigma with a simple stepbystep approach to reloading using off the shelf components. In addition to coming to this conclusion about prepatched bullet diameter, i also investigated the factors of bullet hardness, patch type and powder choice, hoping to further refine smokeless powder paperpatched loads. The folks i know who paper patch use a sizer to get the diameter just right after wrapping.
Wright shoot em the way they were originally designed to be shot, with black powder and paper patch bullets. They dont appear to give much benefit over lubricated lead at revolver velocities. Followed by the same questions about how the paper survives in the barrel. The 50 i wanted to try to patch for was a gun i put together for my son. A needle gun is a firearm that has a needlelike firing pin, which can pass through the paper cartridge case to strike a percussion cap at the bullet base. This last pic is of a 100yd five shot group from a 224 cal rifle. A lot of people are curious about paper patching bullets. Top long range muzzleloading targt shooters of the mid 1800s commonly relied on paper patched conical bullets. There is one fellow who shoots yds with his black powser 45 cal rifle and puts them all in the the black. To knurl or groove the bullets, just swing the handle down to bring the embossing wheel against the bullet, and turn the crank two or three turns while pressing with mild pressure on the padded handle. Would be of interest to research this,not only would make it easier but teflon tape is verry slippery. This for you old or ancient guys paper patched bullets gun.
A beginners guide for learning to load and shoot paper patched bullets by randolph s. I also did it about 15yrs ago with a 1895 that had the microgroove rifling. Gunstore operators told me that about 30 to 40% of the guns they sell for personal defense are revolvers, and the vast majority. Buffalo hunters used this type of bullet to hunt millions of buffalos. Does anyone here paper patch muzzle loader bullets. Is paper patching real for making bullets untraceable. Paper and cloth patching has been around long before the cartridge. Im aware that many molds are available to cast bullets for paper patching. This is the very first loading of this round with commercial sport.
If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the faq by clicking the link above. After hammering out the bullet, i tried moistening the bullets with felix lube, and sizing was easy after that. This is why the pritchett style and many cs bullets had no grease grooves. Im aware that many molds are available to cast bullets for paperpatching. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load. When the norwegian army started using metallic cartridges in 1867, a grease grooved bullet was used in the 12 mm remington rolling block ammunition. As a ammunition manufacture, we load over 400 calibers.
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